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@Soultego

I hate to be the kind of guy who picks apart your posts for things to point out, but here we go:

“If this offends you, then likely you are or was a cheater”

Why are you so quick to make judgements on other people? You think I would only be offended if it affected me? There is such a thing in this world as caring for other people, something that you seem to have no knowledge of.

“yes I've tried zen, that doesn't help avoid being cheated, if anything causes more opportunity to be cheated”

I think at this point you’re getting paranoid. How many cheaters do you even think there are? And how many do you think you will actually get to play?

“studies have shown nearly 50% of online gamers cheat.”

What studies? This kind of statement is literally the most efficient at misleading people to think there is evidence behind your arguments without actually presenting any evidence.

“so I imagine is about the same on any given chess website”

Online gaming =/= online chess. They’re two totally different things. And if, by your reasoning, you want to say that nearly 50% of chess players cheat, then there is a 50% chance you also cheat, am I right? Don’t imply things that can be used against you.

"If this offends you, then likely you are or was a cheater", what a logic there!

On the other hand, there are players with few games and a lot of rating, that it's true, but that doesn't mean they cheat. Perhaps they played a lot of OTB chess and just recently got an account, or maybe they played a lot of chess on other sites, like Chess.com, and moved to Lichess recently. So why, when you see a player with a hundred games and 2000 classical elo, the ONLY conclussion you can get is that they cheat? It's quite a narrow way to interprete the facts.

The "studies have shown" part of your post, just lol.

Oh, and let me insist, for this is a crutial point: the imbalance between the ratings on different time formats is NOT an indicator of cheating. I don't see how you can be so sure that it is, and I can't even guess a solid, undisputable argument to convey that.

  Indeed, rating differences between time controls — especially when the number of games played therein also differs — are par for the course, and entirely to be expected, because the pools are differently constituted. (See my comment here: lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/i-reached-1600-in-rapid-for-the-first-time?page=2#14.) And on the contrary: if your ratings were the same across the board, _that_ would be suspicious.
  My Classical rating is substantially higher than my Rapid rating, and my Training rating is higher still. This is purely a function of how much time I have to think before moving. Also, it’s perfectly clear that I don’t cheat, not only because none of those ratings is anything like as high as the World Champion’s, but because I play very inaccurately, with wildly spiking move times. (Cheaters tend to always find the most accurate continuation, while spending the same amount of time on every move.) I also lose half the games I play. . . .
  This is why you should simply analyze your games afterward: it will prove the matter straightforwardly. If you suspect someone of cheating based on that analysis, analyze some of his other games. If he plays the same way against everyone, report him.
  Your hypothesis does not “offend” me; it is simply patent nonsense, which can be safely dismissed for the reasons I (and others) have stated here. If someone’s playing is always the same, that is suspicious; whereas if his playing varies widely, that is only natural. So your inference is dead backwards of what it should be. 🙃

PS:
  Regarding inconsistent ratings, you may also find my comment here of interest: lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/training-rating-to-rapid-rating-ratio#4

I am not going to argue who is right or who is wrong, but I definitely sympathize with Soultego here. Losing is frustrating. For me, most of my reports are reactions to my anger. I am emotionally reactive. There is a surge of emotion, and naturally, my mind is balanced when it is clear of emotion, so my anger changes form and is expressed in reports of players. I seek to have emotional stability, so the toxicity is transferred rapidly outwards. There were a few cases where my reports were correct. The ones that were correct were from players who completely dominated me with nearly all perfect moves. These people were obvious cheaters. Basically legitimate identifying factors include the centipawn loss and move times. Also, the game history is another factor. It is good though to have the professional cheater catchers on the job. These people can find more specific factors that identify the cheaters. One friend of mine who worked for lichess helped me find a cheater based on the theory of my game lololl. I loosely remember that it was Peter Svidlers prep or something. But that cheaters game history and other factors gave it away. I think I lost on move 17 for that game. Personally I think lichess is WAAAAY better than chesscom in terms of catching cheaters. I think there is always good work to be done. The developers on lichess never rest, always adding new features and making this site the greatest chess site of all time. In any case, I hope people can feel at ease at some point. Also, in principle I reccomend to accept every game you get no matter the rating because a player must know how to beat high rated players and low rated players. Also lower rated players give a more must win implication since if a draw happens then elo will be lost.

If only things could be perfect and if only there would be no cheaters

HERE IS A DRASTIC RADICAL SOLUTION: make lichess a software that downloads onto a persons PC. make lichess access your IP address and look at all windows you have open and all of internet activity or application activity (this includes mobile). If you have nothing to hide, it will work perfectly. Sure you give up privacy and there may be a violation of privacy BUT there is a gurantee there is no engine assistance. This is similar to the steam application or fortnite or league of legends that has anti-cheat detection software.

2ND SOLUTION: require all members to stream at least 1 game. the game will be rated. the player will have to talk when they play revealing their calculations, plans, and thought process. This would be really slow to take place, since lichess would have to watch each player and stream and verify the person is not a cheater.

The thing is none of those solutions are what lichess is all about. Lichess is its own site with its own methods that are improving from programmers. BUT, if any person wants to make a pure cheater free chess site, I am putting those ideas out there.

Regards, I hope things get better. Keep up the good work everyone.

#14 "Personally I think lichess is WAAAAY better than chesscom in terms of catching cheaters."

I agree. Lichess and FICS confidently publish cheat detection source code because it works.

"if any person wants to make a pure cheater free chess site..."

The war is lost; it's only a matter of time, but we can enjoy our chess for now.

The Sun will Rise that is a well known fact.
I think I will believe that before I believe something that is published.
"if any person wants to make a pure cheater free chess site..."
I just wish people would quit talking about it.
"Cheating will never stop because most people talk about them. Attention is addictive."

@Soultego
i like your ratings:
2001 blitz
2001 rapid
1996 classical
2000 bullet

good luck syncing them all to 2000 :)