Yes, lichess is behaving like a government but @PaWnBaRiaN we need moderation to detect cheaters , other people who are offensive,etc. No one is perfect, mods are also humans they make mistakes too. If we don't know the cause of chatbanning @tpr then we will obviously support @tpr because he is trustworthy ( until anyone proves me wrong), but how can we trust the mods?
If mods do not clarify the reason then it is not possible for us to trust the moderation system.
If mods do not clarify the reason then it is not possible for us to trust the moderation system.
If tpr is chat banned for a trivial reason, March 26th should be chosen for the International Day of Remembrance of Cancel Culture Victims.
Now if he has been a bad bunny, that's another story. But since Lichess dictatorship is above all benevolent and tpr himself is benevolent , the matter should be resolved one way or another.
Now if he has been a bad bunny, that's another story. But since Lichess dictatorship is above all benevolent and tpr himself is benevolent , the matter should be resolved one way or another.
@tpr What do you want?
1. If you want that mods should tell the reason of chat banning you in this forum then react with a heart.
2. If you want that mods don't need tell the reason then react with a horsey.
3. Or if you have another option react with thinking.
You can't type but I feel that you can react and your reaction will clear the fact that what you want.
1. If you want that mods should tell the reason of chat banning you in this forum then react with a heart.
2. If you want that mods don't need tell the reason then react with a horsey.
3. Or if you have another option react with thinking.
You can't type but I feel that you can react and your reaction will clear the fact that what you want.
yeah well unfortunately it's not possible to say because the policy is for things to be kept between the individual and lichess. we are forced to trust that lichess is right, which seems a bit stupid in this situation since i'm sure 99.9% of us can't imagine any reason why he would get banned. a mod in this thread said that tpr had been told before what the reason was for the ban, probably at lichess.org/inbox/lichess or some other mod. unfortunately, since it seems stupidly unlikely that we won't ever find out why he was banned, it means that there are only 2 paths forward:
1. tpr sits with the ban
2. tpr appeals, saying he did nothing wrong, and his appeal gets accepted/rejected
maybe with all the support behind him in this thread it will influence their decision but i really doubt it. lichess sometimes does a great job of listening to the community and adding features and other times it completely disregards the community's opinion, and keeps matters in their own hands, not involving the community at all, which is sometimes a good thing and sometimes a bad thing.
1. tpr sits with the ban
2. tpr appeals, saying he did nothing wrong, and his appeal gets accepted/rejected
maybe with all the support behind him in this thread it will influence their decision but i really doubt it. lichess sometimes does a great job of listening to the community and adding features and other times it completely disregards the community's opinion, and keeps matters in their own hands, not involving the community at all, which is sometimes a good thing and sometimes a bad thing.
Since the user (@tpr) has responded with a heart above, indicating they wish the reason to be shared, I will do so.
tpr was asked a few days ago by private message not to post things like this lichess.org/forum/off-topic-discussion/a-friend-has-had-his-account-marked-for-outside-assistance?page=2#16 encouraging other users to create new accounts when banned. This ban evasion is not allowed and the correct advice would be to go to lichess.org/appeal and then follow moderator instructions depending on the outcome.
Similarly here they were warned explicitly in the thread that this was misinformation lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/am-i-allowed-two-accounts-on-lichess-one-for-beserking#6 (and #8) and lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/sandbaggers-are-ruining-the-lower-rated-tournaments?page=2#12 (and #13).
These warning messages were ignored and tpr continued to post misinformation in the forums. Regardless of their positive role in the community, we can't allow misinformation like this to spread as it disrupts Lichess, especially when it's spread by someone who is clearly as well respected and active as tpr.
tpr was asked a few days ago by private message not to post things like this lichess.org/forum/off-topic-discussion/a-friend-has-had-his-account-marked-for-outside-assistance?page=2#16 encouraging other users to create new accounts when banned. This ban evasion is not allowed and the correct advice would be to go to lichess.org/appeal and then follow moderator instructions depending on the outcome.
Similarly here they were warned explicitly in the thread that this was misinformation lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/am-i-allowed-two-accounts-on-lichess-one-for-beserking#6 (and #8) and lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/sandbaggers-are-ruining-the-lower-rated-tournaments?page=2#12 (and #13).
These warning messages were ignored and tpr continued to post misinformation in the forums. Regardless of their positive role in the community, we can't allow misinformation like this to spread as it disrupts Lichess, especially when it's spread by someone who is clearly as well respected and active as tpr.
Wow
@somethingpretentious I am glad that a solution to the "trust issue" has been reached in this case. Thank you for keeping an eye on this topic, and for your continued moderation work. I apologise if I came across as antagonistic along the way.
@somethingpretentious Thanks for sharing the information but do we have the right to know for how long @tpr is chatbanned? Or it will stay until @tpr appeals and says not to repeat this again?
lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/am-i-allowed-two-accounts-on-lichess-one-for-beserking#6
lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/sandbaggers-are-ruining-the-lower-rated-tournaments?page=2#12
@tpr wasn't completely wrong here about the multiple accounts though. There are certainly gray areas when it comes to multiple accounts.
Also sandbagging is not a clearly addressed issue as there are many both in the lobbies and tournaments who cause a lot of inconvenience. Also @somethingpretentious How long will this chat ban last ?
@tpr Still have huge respect for you. Hope you'll be back to the forums soon.
lichess.org/forum/general-chess-discussion/sandbaggers-are-ruining-the-lower-rated-tournaments?page=2#12
@tpr wasn't completely wrong here about the multiple accounts though. There are certainly gray areas when it comes to multiple accounts.
Also sandbagging is not a clearly addressed issue as there are many both in the lobbies and tournaments who cause a lot of inconvenience. Also @somethingpretentious How long will this chat ban last ?
@tpr Still have huge respect for you. Hope you'll be back to the forums soon.
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