Premove tricks in bullet

Suggestion to OP: don't play bullet. Seriously, I agree that such behavior is against the spirit of the game, but IMHO, frankly, so is bullet.

I understand your point, the game becomes something else when you can try predicting the opponent's moves. I would argue that both players are playing hope-chess when doing this, the trickster and the one premoving.

This opponent has given you information about how he plays, I would suggest using it against them instead of blocking.

Personally I appreciate the depth these tactics produce, human play that I'm guessing engines wouldn't imitate.

If you premove without watching your opponent moves, and it is obvious, taking advantage of it is part of the game; it is like seeing you only memorize an opening, and going for an inferior move to catch you out of preparation ;)

The point is, if i play inferior moves to catch you unprepared, punish it; if you do not do it, then it was a worthwhile risk. Learn from it, and when you replay a player do not fall for it.

I try to remember players doing premove tricks, and it ended up in losses for them in the majority of the cases.

I do go for pawn forks from time to time when I see my opponent not watching what I move in bullet; if it goes bad for me, it is a gambit, nothing deadly, otherwise people will start to take me more seriously

I saw nothing wrong here, if you are in such a big hurry and premove too much you should not play bullet and if somebody takes advantage of your premove then they have all the right to do so because premove is an advantage all in itself so you take a risk everytime you premove, instead of blocking you should stop playing bullet ( I don't play bullet myself because I find it too fast and unsuitable for playing on phones, and it is difficult to learn new things in chess )

On the other hand, and more seriosly, why would you want to use tricks like that to win? You are on a website, playing for nothing but fun; it is much for fun to outplay an opponent and win because you're better than him, than to win because you tricked him/her into having a piece more; trust your abilities!

I don't see how this can be labelled as "rude"... it's just an unsound gambit played in the hope that the opponent miss the right response, which is exactly what happened.

And if you consider that a cheap trick, then by the same account so is pre-moving itself, since it follows the exact same logic:
"I'm playing this move blindly to gain time, hoping that he does not counter it preemptively"

I got caught up in this kind of blind premove thing couple of times. Even chessbrah got "anti-premoved" because he plays most of the moves with pre-moves. But as you become stronger and more experienced player in bullet, you'll get the intuition when it's completely or highly safe to pre-move and when it's more reasonable to hold the piece over the desired square instead of making a pre-move, so that you always play those moves fast, but have enough fraction of a second to play another move in case your opponent tries something sneaky and unexpected.
P.S. Actually when I establish that my opponent tries completly pre-move his opening, I might try something sneaky against him, usually gambiting a pawn (as # 13 pointed out) or make some other non-standard, unexpected move, which should be reacted to, but I almost never would hang a piece like that in hope of catching a pre-move. And I often punish such opponents >:)

Catching the opponent by surprise is part of bullet! Part of the adventure is that you can play bizarre moves:




That said, as a 2100+ bullet player I recommend being very careful with your use of premoves. In fact, I routinely (on stream) lament exactly as #16 states -- how *dare* my opponent premove to try to flag me, and I can't premove because it's too dangerous! Fortunately, often I'm able to punish such premoving... case in point (against an opponent who went berserk):

Sounds like you need to work on being less predictable.

use premove only when you recapture a piece and for checking the king in the end of the game, don't use it in the opening carelessly, I have a dozen of games with winning a queen on a 3rd move, when opponent premoved too much

and blocking those who try to catch you is much more rude, than they playing Bh3 on move 2